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- TidBITS#167/08-Mar-93
- =====================
-
- The 32-bit Enabler seems to have trouble enabling various
- systems - read on for details. Also, MBS Technologies offers
- free file synchronization programs to World Trade Center
- companies, Apple changes a PowerBook 165c configuration,
- Pythaeus relates problems with internal CD-ROM drives, Eric
- Anderson passes on Duo 210 observations (along with a note
- about free Duo keyboard replacements!), and finally, comments
- from our modem issue.
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- Topics:
- MailBITS/08-Mar-93
- World Trade Center Offer
- 165c Configuration Change
- 32-bit Enabler Problems
- Internal CD-ROM Quirks
- Duo 210 Observations
- Modem Issue Comments
- Reviews/08-Mar-93
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-167.etx; 28K]
-
-
- MailBITS/08-Mar-93
- ------------------
- Povl Pedersen writes, "There is something more about the 72-pin
- SIMMs that you should note. They are all 32-bit, as opposed to the
- old 8-bit SIMMs. This means that you can upgrade one slot at a
- time. On older 32-bit data bus-equipped machines (all Mac II
- series and the SE/30) you need to fill four SIMM slots at a time."
-
- Information from:
- Povl H. Pedersen -- pope@imv.aau.dk
-
-
- Gopher Site
- Internet users looking for TidBITS back issues can use a new
- Gopher server at <gopher.sfasu.edu> [144.96.128.118]. They have
- all TidBITS issues in text form (though not searchable as an
- archive so it won't put the WAIS out of business any time soon)
- along with back issues of Info-Mac Digest and Murph Sewall's
- long-running but soon-ending Vaporware. You need a Gopher client
- such as TurboGopher to access this Gopher server, and the details
- are site specific after that, so I won't delve any further.
-
-
- World Trade Center Offer
- ------------------------
- Here's a neat offer. MBS Technologies, makers of FileRunner file
- synchronization software for MacOS and DOS, is offering free
- copies of FileRunner to companies whose operations were disrupted
- by the World Trade Center bombing. The offer lasts for 60 days, so
- if you know of any bombed-out businesses that could use file
- synchronization software, have them call MBS.
-
- I haven't seen FileRunner, but I gather it targets using removable
- media for file synchronization. This facilitates synchronizing
- machines when you use SneakerNet, and it makes it possible to
- easily synchronize more than two machines. These features would
- make FileRunner especially helpful to companies setting up
- temporary offices or for people who have to work at home
- temporarily.
-
- MBS Technologies -- 800/860-8700 -- 412/941-9076
- 412/941-7076 (fax)
-
- Information from:
- MBS propaganda
-
-
- 165c Configuration Change
- -------------------------
- by TidBITS staff
-
- In an attempt to avoid availability problems, Apple is changing
- the 160 MB hard drive configuration of the PowerBook 165c. Because
- Apple doesn't expect to be able to obtain 2.5" 160 MB drives in
- large enough quantities soon enough to meet demand, it is
- replacing the 160 MB drives with a 120 MB drives. Apple hopes this
- will make 165c available in quantities sufficient to meet the
- expected high demand.
-
- We're pleased to see Apple nimbly changing direction and modifying
- a shipping product. This flexibility means more 165c machines for
- people who want them, and less bad press for Apple. This change
- comes at a time when the 180 is almost impossible to find because
- of low yields on the active-matrix screen, and availability on the
- 145 is low due to low demand, making 160 and 165c the most
- available options. 120 MB is still a generous size for a portable
- computer's hard drive, so we hope few people will be seriously
- disappointed by the decrease in megabytes.
-
- In addition, the Spring issue of "Apple Report," Apple Ireland's
- quarterly magazine, claims Apple will release a PowerBook 185c in
- the summer. Given that the 165c has 180 performance with a
- passive-matrix color LCD screen, that might imply that the 185c
- will have better-than-180 performance with an active-matrix color
- LCD screen. We expect the 185c to actually be a 180 with an
- active-matrix color LCD, although there's no telling with Apple.
- Apparently Sharp was showing off a new active-matrix color LCD
- screen at the Tokyo Macworld Expo, and that screen should ship by
- summer. It's lighter than the 165c's passive-matrix screen, but we
- haven't heard if it consumes less power or will have a higher
- yield than the active-matrix gray-scale screen.
-
- Information from:
- Jacob Ahlqvist -- jacob.ahlqvist@online.iol.ie
- Pythaeus
- Apple propaganda
-
-
- 32-bit Enabler Problems
- -----------------------
- Those of us on 32-bit dirty ROM machines like the Mac II, SE/30,
- IIx, and IIcx were pleased when Apple finally released the 32-bit
- Enabler for System 7.1. Unfortunately, this enabler appears to
- suffer from numerous bugs and quirks, but only for some people. I
- isolated a weird problem in which the 32-bit Enabler prevents
- MacsBug 6.2.2 from rebooting my SE/30 - the programmer's switch
- works fine, as does MacsBug when I revert back to MODE32. Other
- people have related tales of woe that range from the Mac failing
- to boot to major speed hits and frequent crashes.
-
- We haven't identified any common factor other than the 32-bit
- Enabler. Some blame accelerators, but we know of one DayStar-
- accelerated Mac II that doesn't work, and another DayStar-
- accelerated SE/30 that does. Rumors have floated about an
- incompatibility with third-party drive formatters, most notably
- Drive7 from Casa Blanca Works. John Catalano of Casa Blanca Works
- said they had only one call about this problem, and the call only
- relayed the Internet rumor. John said the Drive7 programmers are
- checking for problems, and users of Drive7 and the 32-bit Enabler
- who notice anything should contact Casa Blanca Works.
-
- Ed Rotberg of Apple clarified one quirk. Apparently the 32-bit
- Enabler requires version 1.2 of the Mac II ROMs, which are only
- available as part of the $400 FDHD upgrade. Of course, Mac IIs
- also require a separate PMMU, but the ROM version problem confused
- many people who had been successfully using MODE32, which does not
- require the newer ROMs. Ed cautioned users to install the 32-bit
- Enabler loose in the System folder, since it won't work in the
- Control Panel folder, for instance.
-
- Roy McDonald of Connectix confirmed that Connectix has received
- complaints about the 32-bit Enabler (Connectix programmed MODE32,
- but had nothing to do with the 32-bit Enabler). Connectix
- recommends users follow this procedure:
-
- * First try the 32-bit Enabler. It works for many people just
- fine.
-
- * If your Mac won't boot or won't use 32-bit addressing, try
- MODE32. Connectix was unable to reproduce any conflicts between
- System 7.1 and MODE32 (they initially thought virtual memory might
- cause crashes with System 7.1 and MODE32), so MODE32 should work,
- and if you do experience problems with MODE32, let Connectix know.
-
- * If your Mac boots and goes into 32-bit addressing using the
- 32-bit Enabler, but you experience notable flakiness, add the
- Connectix Enabler Patch, which should be available from your
- favorite FTP site or commercial service. See TidBITS#162 for
- information on the patch, which is for use with all Enablers,
- including the 32-bit Enabler.
-
- Why use the 32-bit Enabler? It can't be turned off by extension
- managers. MODE32 can be turned off, and when you do this, MODE32
- disables itself, turning off 32-bit addressing as well. When you
- turn MODE32 back on in the extension manager, MODE32 is still
- disabled, as is 32-bit addressing, and you have to re-enable
- MODE32 and 32-bit addressing manually before you can see all your
- memory again.
-
- The items I launch at startup consume more memory than 24-bit
- addressing makes available, so if I forget to re-enable both
- MODE32 and 32-bit addressing, the Mac gets confused when it uses
- absolutely all of the available memory with ten more applications
- left to launch. If you boot with the Shift key down to avoid
- extensions, you get 24-bit addressing with either the 32-bit
- Enabler or MODE32, and MODE32's settings and the Memory Control
- Panel's settings aren't changed for the next boot, which is nice.
-
- We have version 1.0.3 of the 32-bit Enabler, which is the latest
- as far as we know, although we hope a 1.0.4 comes out relatively
- quickly to solve some of these problems.
-
- Casa Blanca Works -- 415/461-2227 -- 415/461-2249 (fax)
- Connectix -- 800/950-5880 -- 415/571-5100
-
- Information from:
- Ed Rotberg -- gonzo@ntb.apple.com
- Paul Duckenfield -- duckenfi@ac.grin.edu
- John Catalano, Casa Blanca Works -- 73750.1317@compuserve.com
- Roy McDonald, Connectix -- connectix@applelink.apple.com
-
-
- Internal CD-ROM Quirks
- ----------------------
- For a decent multimedia machine, the Mac has some strange
- problems. The latest to surface concerns the internal CD drives in
- the Performa 600CD, IIvx, Centris 650, and Quadras. The drive
- works fine but does not allow access to the volume control dial
- and headphone jack on the AppleCD 300 (the identical mechanism)
- because Apple thinks people would be confused because Macintosh
- beeps don't come from that jack. There's only so far you should go
- in crippling hardware to make it easy to understand.
-
-
- Pythaeus adds:
- There are some real issues with the "Buick Case" bezel used on the
- Performa 600, IIvx, and Centris 650.
-
- * Why did Apple make the CD-ROM hit light invisible? When copying
- large images from PhotoCD, which can take several minutes, you
- have no indication that the computer is functioning. It looks as
- though it's frozen. (There is a similar problem with AppleTalk
- Remote Access, the Finder's watch cursor, and the "AppleTalk
- doubleaxe" arrows.)
-
- * Only the Sony CD-ROM drive fits behind the current removable
- slotted bezel.
-
- The bezel is easy to remove, but if you install a different CD-ROM
- drive (the Toshiba or the Texel with the pull down doors) you need
- to make an auxiliary handle for the drive doors because the bay is
- so deeply recessed even with the bezel cover completely removed.
-
- So where are the generic 5.25" and 3.5" bezel covers from Apple?
- MicroNet says they had to tool their own - whether they are
- available separately or not I don't know.
-
- With the Texel drive, you can cut and fit a small piece of Radio
- Shack heavy duty hook & loop velcro (it's clear plastic knobby
- velcro, adhesive-backed) under the door tab, providing enough of
- something to grip with a fingernail to open the spring-loaded dust
- door.
-
- The Toshiba mechanisms are tougher, since they have a smooth
- curved tab on the door.
-
- In either case it would be possible to epoxy a second tab onto the
- dust door or even, using a small bit, drill a hole and tie a piece
- of knotted yarn through the hole as a door pull.
-
- I know this is absurd, but I bring it up to illustrate how
- shortsighted Apple's "designers" can be at times. [Gee, I wonder
- if the marketing department that hosed the Apple Adjustable
- Keyboard might be implicated in this as well? -Adam]
-
- Henry Ford: "Any color as long as it's black."
- Apple: "Any CD-ROM drive as long as it's ours."
-
- Information from:
- Pythaeus
-
-
- Duo 210 Observations
- --------------------
- by Eric Anderson -- ewa@cs.ucsd.edu
-
- Now that I've traveled to Japan and back with my Duo 210, I have
- comments which might be helpful to potential buyers. Please send
- me suggestions or comments if you have similar experiences.
-
-
- Snoring
- It snores! When my 210 sleeps with the power plug removed, it
- snores. A light buzzing comes from the rear, near the power jack.
- In any but the quietest places, you have to put it within a few
- inches of the ear to hear it. Battery life is good when asleep, so
- there is no evidence that this is a fault. I'd like to know if
- anyone else hears this! (When shut down, or the battery is
- removed, it is completely silent.) At least one other person has
- confirmed this.
-
-
- Battery life
- I took four batteries with me for the flights across the Pacific.
- I never ran out of power - the flight from Los Angeles is eleven
- and a half hours, but between meals and movies I only used up two
- batteries. With the screen set to minimum (quite bright in a dark
- plane) and the conservation set to maximum (not too annoying) and
- processor cycling on, but full CPU speed, I got well over two
- hours of use per battery. These batteries discharge when not in
- use, and after 24 hours they've lost maybe 20 minutes of charge.
- So plan ahead and keep them topped off. I suspect I could get
- close to three hours booting from a big RAM disk.
-
- While we're talking about the battery, I have had zero problems
- with loose connections. Just make sure that it is tightly latched
- as intended and you should be fine.
-
- The battery slip-case has sharp innards that dig grooves into the
- battery. This is silly. Discard the case, or sand down the ridges
- in the case (not so easy). You can also slice off the pin way
- inside the case that latches the battery in there and it's much
- easier to use the case. The primary latch, in front, is good
- enough without that darn plastic pin.
-
-
- Screen
- The screen is excellent in black and white mode, but I never use
- that mode, because the 16 grays look much nicer. Black, single-
- pixel-high horizontal lines cause slight shadows to extend down
- the screen. Window title bars, with six parallel lines, are the
- worst offenders. Try setting the background to alternating
- horizontal lines of white and black - the screen quality plummets.
- I use a 50% gray background with a grid highlight, similar to one
- provided in the "General" control panel. The grid lines help to
- hide shadows. Cranking "up" the contrast (the top button) can also
- reduce shadows. [If you're familiar with ResEdit, consider
- modifying the procedure Conrad Halling passed along in
- TidBITS#160. -Adam]
-
- When the screen is off, it takes a minute to warm up. It comes on
- fairly bright, but gradually increases to full. This is subtle
- enough that I thought it was my eyes for a while. Does anyone know
- what kind of lights are used to light the screen? Do they ever
- burn out? Should I keep them off when I'm plugged in and don't
- need backlighting?
-
-
- Keyboard
- This keyboard just isn't a desktop keyboard. It is adequate, but
- the spacebar takes some getting used to, and it will always be a
- little less comfortable than a full-sized keyboard. For extended
- use at home you'll be happier with a real mouse and keyboard. The
- floppy adapter has one ADB port, so it is the least expensive way
- to add the real keyboard and mouse.
-
- [Important! The 08-Mar-93 issue of MacWEEK reported that Apple
- will replace Duo keyboards that have a problem wherein the Shift
- keys or the spacebar don't respond when the user types too
- rapidly. Either call your dealer or the Apple technical assistance
- hotline at 800/767-2775 if you experience this. -Adam]
-
-
- Network Connections
- A simple ImageWriter II cable works fine to connect any two
- LocalTalk ports such as between the Duo 210 and a LaserWriter or
- the 210 and a IIci, etc. It's a lot more compact than a pair of
- PhoneNet connectors.
-
-
- Summary
- I love it. Sun Computers wants $1,999 for them; developers can do
- better but may have to wait a while - perhaps as long as three to
- four months. They are abundant in San Diego stores. I see no need
- for the faster 230, though the dealer said most people opt for the
- 230. My most desired option now (in addition to four batteries,
- two power supplies and one charger) would be 4 MB or 8 MB more
- RAM. It's a well-balanced machine, but 4 MB is a little tight.
-
-
- Negatives
- [On the negative side, common complaints about the Duos include
- the paucity of the Apple Express Modem and the docks, most notably
- the MiniDock, the lack of an internal floppy drive, the lack of an
- ADB port, the difficulty in taking it apart for anything but
- adding RAM, the smaller trackball size (although it does use a
- jeweled bearing that improves the feel significantly), the cost of
- an overall Duo Dock system, and the loss of the internal screen
- when docked in the Duo Dock. Of these, I'm only really concerned
- about the last - all the other problems will either go away or
- force you to suffer with a traditional PowerBook. -Adam]
-
- Information from:
- Eric Anderson -- ewa@cs.ucsd.edu
-
-
- Modem Issue Comments
- --------------------
- We stirred up hornet's nest with our review of the PPI and Supra
- modems in TidBITS#163. People made many comments, which you'll see
- a sampling of below, but first I want to explain that TidBITS is
- not MacSolarSystem, so it is impossible for us to review every
- modem or test every situation. Instead, we used these modems
- heavily in our daily work, which occasionally produces results you
- couldn't find any other way.
-
-
- Supra Problems
- The comments that concerned us the most had to do with the Supra
- modem, which evidently has not worked out well for some.
-
- Tony Huang <tonyh@msc.cornell.edu> writes:
- As anyone who occasionally browses the relevant newsgroups on the
- net would know, there are two groups of Supra users: those that
- are very happy with the product and those that are extremely
- dissatisfied. The majority seem to be in the latter category. I
- own a Supra modem. I use it primarily to access the Cornell SLIP
- server and a few commercial services. For these applications, the
- Supra is a fine product. However, Supras are known to have
- problems connecting (and maintaining the connection) to many
- modems, especially to one another! So, Supras are not good choice
- for BBSing, if that's your primary application. The commercial
- services typically use more-expensive modems (such as the
- Motorolas, Hayes or USR Couriers) that will connect to any modem.
-
- Joe Clark <joeclark@scilink.org> writes:
- I own one of those kooky Supra modems you talked about and have
- had a few problems. I ordered the free ROM upgrade and couldn't
- install it because one of the screws on the case simply wouldn't
- budge. Then the speaker died. Also, Microphone 1.7 is primitive,
- and FaxSTF's interface and performance are much less fabulous than
- you think. (If it "can't confirm the last page," whatever that
- means, it keeps redialing and sending the whole document over
- again, possibly racking up major phone charges.) In addition, I
- have a hard time logging onto my local Internet source (up to
- fifty tries are necessary). If I can get enough money together to
- buy a completely new modem, I will. You'll find lots of flames
- like mine on comp.dcom.modems, where opinion is split about the
- Supra models.
-
-
- Other good modems
- A number of people wrote to tell us about how much they like
- various other modems, including modems from ZyXEL, US Robotics,
- and Global Village.
-
- Pythaeus writes:
- I'd suggest that while the Supra may be fine for the casual
- communications user, it may well prove problematic for those with
- intensive data communication needs, noisy phony lines, etc. I know
- that in response to Usenet discussion threads I bought two ZyXEL
- PLUS's. I'm glad I spent the extra money because these modems have
- been exceptionally reliable (not a single lost connection) in many
- intensive tasks.
-
- Thomas B. Cowin <tcowin@ai.uwf.edu> writes:
- We have been using Global Village TelePort/Gold modems, which have
- performed well - high marks to Global Village for fax software and
- capability. Also, in researching v.32bis fax modems for PCs, I ran
- across a religious conversion occurring on comp.dcom.modems -
- almost everyone seems to be absolutely crazy about the ZyXEL
- modems' features and reliability. I have one on order. In a rating
- of popular modems on a scale that runs from -10 to +10, the ZyXEL
- comes in at +8.2, and Supra a +5.8 (over 40 survey responses.)
- There's a summary put together by <mpye@netcom.com>, and even a
- ZyXEL FAQ by <mckeeveb@monashee.sfu.ca>.
-
- Eric Hoffmann <ehfm@midway.uchicago.edu> writes:
- US Robotics (USR) has a number of modems that support v.32bis,
- such as the Mac & Fax Sportster, and I feel it is a better modem
- than either of the two you reviewed for a similar price.
- Proprietary protocols are nothing new, or even unique to USR. By
- my reckoning, USR, Hayes, ZyXEL, and Telebit have all introduced
- modems with proprietary protocols that achieve top speed only when
- connected to another modem of the same model.
-
-
- Fax Software
- A number of comments concerned fax software, both recommendations
- for other programs and fixes for FaxSTF (which does have some
- problems - just the other day I tried to fax something and FaxSTF
- sent it all fine except the PICT of my signature).
-
- Doug Smith <dougs@sga.uucp> comments:
- I have the Global Village PowerPort/Gold modem. If the fax
- software for Global Village's desktop modems is anything like what
- comes with the PowerPort, it is fantastic. I've had total success
- in both sending and receiving faxes; even the first time I tried
- it.
-
- Eric Hoffmann writes:
- FaxSTF does have a nifty little application that goes into your
- Apple Menu items folder: FaxState. Using FaxState, you can
- completely bypass the seven steps it takes to activate or
- deactivate the software. You bring up the application and if the
- software is active, it turns it off. If the software is off, it
- turns it on. Look for it inside the "Unsupported Software" folder
- on the FaxSTF software disks. You might also mention a utility
- called CommCloser that forces a serial port to close. Sometimes
- ports get left open and you can't get communication programs to
- work without restarting. CommCloser closes the port and lets you
- avoid a restart.
-
- Edward Reid <ed@titipu.resun.com> writes:
- I just got an upgrade from STF. (You can do this for $9 by sending
- in your original disk, even if it came bundled with a modem and
- has some other vendor's name on the disk.) They claim the OCR
- package is available for $109. It's a special-purpose version of
- the Calera software (WordScan), so it should be good. I can't
- compare directly; I have TypeReader, which I find nothing short of
- amazing. However, even a clean high-resolution fax requires
- editing after recognizing, and graphical objects like logos,
- letterheads, mastheads, etc., are likely to be handled poorly.
-
- A review of OCR programs in the Jan-93 MacUser included fax tests.
- Unfortunately, although they tested lo-res and hi-res paper faxes
- from a fax machine, they only tested a fax modem with hi-res faxes.
- In my experience, most people use lo-res unless you insist on
- hi-res. MacUser's review placed WordScan at the top of the heap
- at recognizing faxes, though TypeReader was too new to make that
- review. Accuracy on hi-res to the fax modem was good (about 99%),
- possibly good enough to auto-delete faxes after recognizing if you
- are willing to accept some errors, or to review the text version
- and delete the image without looking at it if the text looks OK.
- Recognition of lo-res paper faxes, scanned, was down at 90%, which
- is unusable. Even though that will improve with eliminating the
- paper step, I doubt it will reach the 97% level that is needed to
- make the effort worthwhile.
-
- On the other hand, it might be useful just to display the
- recognized text side-by-side with the image. That way one could
- choose to read whichever turns out better. That could be
- especially useful, since viewing faxes on screen is such a
- disaster that I usually print important faxes anyway.
-
- Another feature which would make fax OCR much more useful would be
- for the recognition engine to save as graphics any images
- (obviously not text) and any sections of text that are not
- recognized with high reliability. Perhaps future versions of these
- programs will offer something like that. The MacUser review says
- little about saving graphics.
-
-
- Technical Support
- Comments about technical support from various companies and
- interested users included these two bits.
-
- Eric Hoffmann writes:
- For support issues, you should mention that people should hang out
- on the Usenet newsgroup comp.dcom.modems. You will find terrific
- support for Telebit, Hayes, US Robotics, and ZyXEL modems there.
- Over the past several months there has been a high level of
- dissatisfaction with Supra modems with various ROM revisions.
-
- Geoff Duncan <gaduncan@halcyon.com> writes:
- I had a Supra technician talk me through a very confusing set of
- undocumented command settings to get the thing to connect to - get
- this - a bookstore POS (Point Of Sale) system. Not only was that
- out of the realm of "normal use," but he spent a good hour with me
- getting it to work correctly - all on Supra's phone bill. As a
- result, I have a high opinion of their support staff. However,
- I've yet to receive my promised ROM upgrade, and I found several
- important technical errors in their documentation. Still, good
- support is hard to find.
-
-
- Bits and Pieces
- And finally, we received a bunch of random pieces of information
- that should be useful to those who need to know.
-
- Eric Hoffmann writes:
- While you're mentioning sources for genuine "hardware-handshaking"
- cables, don't forget about Paul Celestin's company. He has been
- making the correctly wired cable for years now. He worked (and may
- still) for Software Ventures, makers of MicroPhone. He's a nice
- guy to boot, and I swear by his cables.
-
- Celestin Company
- P.O. Box 10949
- Oakland, CA 94610
- 510/835-0702
- 800/835-5514
- 510/465-4991 (fax)
-
- Norm Steffen <nsteffen@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil> writes:
- Patrick Chen has compiled a good document on the nuts and bolts of
- modem communication. It is titled "What You Need To Know About
- Modems" and is part one of three in a work titled "The Joys of
- Telecomputing". Part one is free. I plunked down the $18 bucks for
- parts two and three and think it was a good deal. It took him a
- little longer to respond than I had hoped, but he came through.
-
- My edition is out of date as far as prices go, but much of the
- rest of the information is still good. [Patrick Chen didn't answer
- email at any of his electronic addresses. -Adam] You can find this
- file via anonymous FTP on sumex-aim.stanford.edu as:
-
- /info-mac/report/modem-guide-10.txt
-
- Edward Reid writes:
- Users might want to compare prices of these modems in Computer
- Shopper; some distributors sell them without software or cable,
- both of which you can purchase elsewhere.
-
-
- Reviews/08-Mar-93
- -----------------
-
- * MacWEEK -- 01-Mar-93, Vol. 7, #9
- Alias Sketch! 1.5 -- pg. 41
- PBTools 1.0.1 -- pg. 41
- PowerPrint/LT 1.0 -- pg. 44
- UserLand Frontier 2.0 -- pg. 45
-
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